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June 14, 2009 at 6:58 am #1055
http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.aspʔno=296394&rel_no=1http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.phpʔset_id=1&click_id=143&art_id=vn20060604112621730c282333now thereʹs a group going to activley lobby against it—but iʹm not seeing any reference to a formally organized group, just “a global coalition of environmental groups “. greenpeace, doesnʹt seem to be on this one.June 14, 2009 at 6:58 am #9231
(please take my comments here as a bit of cynical tounge-in-cheek, iʹm not taking myself too seriously.) <ǃ-- s:wink: --><ǃ-- s:wink: -->hmmmm. letʹs stop and think about this for a moment……the “road” is packed snow. how long will it lastʔ probably until the next snowstorm, which in antarctica is… everyday. parts may get scoured and be visible for a few years, but the ice will reclaim it quickly. duh….are we the first to build (*gaspǃ*) a long road between stationsʔ heck no. the french, russians, and probably others have done similar traverses for hundreds of miles. nobody squawked then. oh, but wait… this is going to the pole. so whatʔ now the skiing ngoʹs will have a flagged route instead of having to rely on gps or, gawd forbid, common-sense….okay, so we donʹt build it. how does stuff get to the pole thenʔ itʹs flown. does anyone think that flying over antarctica is any less polluting than drivingʔ helloʔ…letʹs assume it works. thatʹs a big assumption; i personally think it will take way too much maintenance to make it worthwhile. but nevermind me, now we can tote things to the pole that wouldnʹt fit inside the cargo hold of an lc-130 (without the gleeful use of a plasma torch), or maybe we can drag a yearʹs worth of fuel in just a few trips. gonzo. whatʹs the big dealʔ…oh wait, wait — somebodyʹs already done itǃ a group from the uk took a pleasure drive to pole just this year. the bastards beat us to itǃ and they didnʹt even need no stinkinʹ road. someone call greenpeaceǃ whatʹs that, they donʹt careʔ how do you spell hypocrisy. at least they could have brought a few thousand gallons of an-8 with them, but nooooo.glenn(i didnʹt take these pictures, not sure who did.)June 14, 2009 at 6:58 am #9232
yea, right..(laughs) like those containers with the canon sticker had nothing to do with sally struthers lilʹ side biz of smuggling kidney material to the spole lead chef.June 14, 2009 at 6:58 am #9233
glenn,nice to see some folks bother to think about the specifics before they make a judgement on this one. those that are concerned about environmental impact should take time to educate themselves on the difference between a jet engine and a tractor engine. look at the cee for the traverse activity.June 14, 2009 at 6:58 am #9234
i find it a bit ironic that sir ed is involved in the criticism about the road. iʹve met him (iʹm sure you have too b.t.) and i like him. but hey, wasnʹt he the first person to drive to the poleʔ things that make you go hmmmm.rather than focus on a showy cheap-shot, iʹd like to see the environmental organizations concentrate more on the bad things that really are happening here, day after day. hereʹs an example:iʹve been back at palmer just under two months. in that time weʹve found two, maybe three small buoys free-floating or washed ashore. mind you, weʹre way the heck and gone from anywhere. these are probably lost from long-liners fishing in these waters, busily contributing to the endangerment or extinction of mawsonii (a.k.a. chilean sea bass, antarctic cod, patagonian toothfish, etc) and the hoards of bird bycatch that also fall victim to the hooks, very likely albatross.i donʹt care about tire tracks in the snow, but it would be nice if some animals were still living a few years from now.okay. iʹll get off the soapbox now.gJune 14, 2009 at 6:58 am #9235
calling it a road in the first place is a bit of a joke. you probably couldnʹt tell you were were on it. flying things to the pole is such a waste. and dangerous to boot. i donʹt know why we didnʹt do this years ago . i would imagine some relate it to the alaska pipeline and the ecological damage that was potentially done. not much in the way of wildlife once you get away from the coast. mikeJune 14, 2009 at 6:58 am #9236
weʹll get our hard packed runway and have no need for a “road” anyway. the traverse is by no means a road, and those who call it that are ignorant. that said, i would have liked to be on the traverse, and seen some sights. the van drove in from the coast in like 67 hours, that thing was sweet. guess i picked a good summer/winter to be at pole. -nate
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